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Cristina's avatar

How exciting that you want to find your family in Argentina! There is a database and this article gives instructions

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/new-ancestry-archive-allows-argentines-to-track-ancestors-arrival.phtml

Yes my colleagues are amazing! I teach gender and Chinese philosophies so to each his own

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Thank you! I will definitely have a look and see if I can find anything.

Chinese philosophy — I've been reading a book on Tao lately. Very interesting. It's more a 'study' of it, really, called '365 Tao: Daily Meditations' by Deng Ming Dao. Interestingly, enough, something was telling me to look for a book on this, then I saw a post on your Facebook about a book on Tao, so I took it as a sign! :-)

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This is such a disturbing time period and I can relate to your feelings about it. I know people who experienced this first hand through my family in Argentina. The music that came out of this is very touching. Have you heard Litto Nebbia? The films are excellent. “La storia official”? Thank you for sharing. The book is too much for me to handle as it it Too close to home

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Julian Gallo's avatar

Good morning, Cristina — Yes, I would imagine so. I had a friend growing up who's family was from Argentina so there was some 'talk' during this time, though we were very young still so they tried to keep it away from the kids. I never heard the music from this period, though. There are a lot of novels written about this era (it seems American publishers seem to only translate Argentine novels which have to do with this and ignore everything else) so I've learned a lot about it. There are also some films I saw which are set in this period which are very interesting. This particular novel I thought was kind of heavy, but it does give one some food for thought, puts you in their shoes and see things from their perspective. If this is something too close to home, then perhaps it's not a novel for you to read. There are a few others which take a different perspective on it, usually from the point of view of childhood, where things going on around them aren't quite understood. Still, it's very powerful, the implications going on in the background. One of these novels I thought was very good was 'Kamchatka' by Marcelo Figuers, which is more contemporary (I believe it came out in English in the early 2000s). All of this is seen through the eyes of a 10 year old boy. Still, it might be too close to home for some.

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Good morning John! Thank you so much for the suggestion of the work of Marcelo Figueroa! I think to a normal person it would be wonderful and interesting. The older people in my family spoke openly and while we were children we understood. My uncle said he could hear people being tortured on his block. I think my family has always been uncensored. Anyway, I realize now that I cannot read anything like that and thank goodness my colleagues are great at teaching these things that I used to teach like a dictators class. I think I can call myself.a snowflake now, like some of my students. It is just too painful; however, this song by Mercedes Sosa was banned and referred to the dirty wars and disappeared ones. Ironically it was meant originally yo refer to an internal death and rebirth through human connection. She is a cicada. I love this song so much! I do teach about this as a lesson in pain and connection and perspective.

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I wjll share on your insta

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Thank you for sending that video. A beautiful song. Let me know what you think of Violetta Parra. I think you'll like her too.

I think it's great that your colleagues teach this moment in history. It's important because it can serve as a warning for the rest of us (and judging how things are going here over the past decade or so, it's quite ominous in my opinion). There's a definite lesson to be learned there if anyone is willing to listen.

Interestingly enough, I have a whole family line in Argentina, though I have no idea who they are. My maternal great-grandfather's brother went to Argentina instead of coming to the U.S. when they emigrated from Italy. (I'm not even sure what that makes him to me), but he went there, so there's a whole family line I never knew. I've been wanting to try and investigate that. I guess they'd all be very distant cousins or something. I'm not too sure how it works. But this is an interesting tidbit of information I discovered about my family only recently.

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